Alhaji Bamanga Tukur is the National Chairman of the Peoples
Democratic Party, PDP. He was General Manager, Nigeria Ports Authority.
In 1983, he was elected governor of old Gongola State, now Adamawa and
Taraba States; in 1992, he was a presidential aspirant of the National
Republican Convention, NRC; and also a former Minister of Industries and
President, Africa Business Roundtable. In this interview, Tukur bares
his mind on the insecurity in the country, his reconciliation agenda for
the PDP, and relationship with the PDP governors. Excerpts:
How far will you say you have gone in your reconciliation efforts in the PDP?
Unity, stability, peace, oneness can co-exist through information. You
all know we are in a difficult situation and that is the reason I will appeal
to you, the media, to really be objective in the way we present issues
to the nation. I was very much disturbed when I went to my village in
Ganye and I saw the damage done through evil.
Today, in this nation, we witness people bombing churches, bombing
mosques, bombing United Nations, bombing car parks, bombing markets. To
me, they are national attacks and we know all the reasons they are
telling us this kind of phenomenon is taking place.
And, under my watch, the PDP is interested in filling all the
elective positions. If you search anywhere, my members are affected. So
I became worried. I believe that maybe we start thinking about how to
face that evil. The good always chases away the evil. We are capable
of doing that. I believe all of us, what I call the coalition of the
willing, can do that.
I am obliged to give you my own understanding of what we have done
and I am happy; those who accompanied me on the tour are also here, they
are NWC members. I was surprised. The turn out in the South West for
example, you hardly could see a free hotel, it was so full.
Similarly in Enugu, Port Harcourt, Bauchi. So all the zones we
visited, the turnout of our members was so fantastic. But the concern is
the insecurity in the country. We are worried about insecurity. We are
worried about the number of young men and women who are out of job.
Security and economy come to play, but we cannot run the economy unless security is on ground.
PDP Chairman, Bamanga Tukur .
It is one of the cardinal principles of our party. We need to develop
through peace and unity. I believe that all manner of people,
government apart, they don’t need PDP to lead the way. ACN, CPC,
Labour, we must come together to fight the evil of insecurity.
In my village they burnt the police station, killed policemen, burnt
houses of individuals with no cause. They broke through the prisons and
released the inmates. What kind of society is that? Let us settle down
and look for the cutting edge in terms of fighting that evil.
As the Chairman of the ruling party, if you are to advise the
president as far as insecurity is concerned, what will you tell him?
It is not about the PDP or President Goodluck Jonathan; this is a
matter that should be of concern to everybody irrespective of political,
ethnic or religious affiliation: the opposition, the labour movement,
religious leaders, traditional rulers. We all have to come to fight the
evil that is now manifesting every where in our land; those perpetuating
this evil are within us in the society, it is not a matter of Mr
President or the PDP-led Federal Government alone. It is not a kind of
thing that we go and target somebody. My advice is, all of us, all
Nigerians, all hands must be on deck to fight the evil.
The PDP NWC just clocked one year in office. What would you identify as your major land mark?
When I came in, we had a template which is our 12-point agenda. After
one year, I went round the states, the people out on a mission for
reconciliation, reformation and rebuilding. I spoke about the Triple E
which is, Environment Sustainability, Education, Energy and Security.
The third is Triple D which is, Defence, Dialogue and Diplomacy. And the
remaining three is the consequences if we do what we pledge to do and
accepted by our people.
If we reconcile, we get peace; you get peace to get security. You get
security, you get investment. It is a circle, they all work together. I
found out that our people are still on the ground, with their party. As
far as I know, they are patient, they understood what happened and they
voiced it out.
They voiced out security, they voiced out economy, etc because the
idea of having the 3 Ds, if you educate your people, they take care of
the elements of the environment. The environment of sustainability Iam
talking about, I am also talking about three things: land, water and
people. That is God-given to every nation. But if you give them
education, they will take care of these elements. They will turn water
to hydro-energy, they can turn it to get energy, they can cut wood and
boil water and get energy. You have to educate them. If you do that, all
these will be ready.
During your reconciliation tour, most stakeholders and governors did
not attend and your statements also conflicted with what the chairman of
the PDP Governors’ Forum said. What really happened?
The notice given to governors to attend the Abuja grand finale was
very short. It is not true that they did not come because they don’t
believe in reconciliation. They were ready for reconciliation and
attending the Abuja event because if you met somebody in Bauchi, why
should that person came to the finale in Abuja? But if you don’t come
really, we don’t believe it is because it is a repetition of what took
place in your state. So I can categorically tell you that no governor of
the PDP is at variance with the reconciliation.
One of the major agenda of your administration is reconciliation.
You’ve been embarking on such across the geo-political zones. But you
just marked one anniversary in office and we know that some of the
people that contested with you for the national chairmanship of PDP were
not actually happy with the process. Have you tried to reconcile with
these contestants?
I believe if you come to our meetings, you will see them. They are
there. It was a contest. But there is no ill-feeling with those who
contested with me. And we are working together. We consult each other. I
talk to them, they talk to me. If I call them, they come. So what else
can one ask for?
Amaechi, Chairman, Nigeria Governors Forum; and the national chairman, PDP, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur
Having heard from the people during the tour and having ruminated on
what you have seen and heard with members of NWC, what is the next line
of action?
First of all, you cannot solve a problem unless you know that the
problem exists. The fact that we work up to 1 a.m today says it all. I
am happy because all my NWC members were there. They are my team. We are
looking at what our members in the zones told us to find the common
denominator and try to find a solution.
Secondly, we wil go to the states. After Easter, we are going to
embark on individual state visits and I hope that you will also have the
opportunity to come with us to see what we need to do. And you know
that anywhere we went, we told them “the party is yours. We are bringing
it back to you. No imposition. Send to us your representatives. “Our
own is to process what you believe is your own choice, then we can work.
What I intend to do now is to give us all a clear indication again to
all to really have our programme of action in terms of solutions”.
Having been in office for one year now, what would you say are your
major challenges? And you said the other time that the NEC meeting will
hold after the election of the BoT Chairman. Now that, that has been
done, when are we expecting the NEC meeting?
NEC is the overall body of the party. It is like the supreme body.
You don’t go to NEC like that. You go to NEC also by giving them all the
information so that you can ask them what you believe they should do.
When I came in, I gave them the 12-point agenda. Now I am going to call
the NEC and tell them this is what I want and suggest to them the
solution and ask for their approval.
Ahead of the 2015 elections, what plans does your party have for
women to ensure that more women are actually encouraged and given the
opportunity to fill elective positions?
PDP is gender sensitive. And PDP under my watch is fair to everyone
because, yes, God has given us two hands which means we should work
together, men and women. In the PDP, it is our agenda to encourage
women, that is the reason we say we exempt them from payment for forms.
But you can take a horse to the water, you cannot make it drink. It is
an opportunity given to them.
There is no imposition. They should go and fightfor election. But
what we can say is that if you want to be our member, elective post,
don’t pay. I think women, to a certain extent, also like to follow men.
Which is a normal thing to do. The aggressive ones are Prime Ministers,
Presidents, but others are still cooking for their husbands.
What is the party doing to check some of the excesses by some
members, especially with their remarks on the move to address the
problem of indiscipline?
We don’t tolerate indiscipline. It’s work in progress. A party is a
“family” actually. Why should you go out and tell a stranger you
couldn’t get justice or whatever you feel within the “family”. So it is
all these areas that I said work is in progress.
Some ministers are not always on ground in their states especially
states where PDP does not control the government and you will need them
to complete your reconciliation move to be in touch with the people.
What is the party doing in this regard?
We are a party and a party should give what we call patronage. That
is what it is actually; we are a family. People who work in that family
should be looked after. But it has happened to that extent and it is one
of those complaints made and we are looking into it.
What is your relationship with the governors of the PDP?
I am 100% with my governors. They call me. There is no place we went,
that the governors did not come out to say specifically that they are in
support of me and my NWC. The governors, all of them, respect me. They
came out. What the papers mentioned, they tried to correct it. I can
remember in Port Harcourt, Amaechi took a decision and they say oh,
which is not true. We work very cordially.
They are our commanders. The state chairman has his own governor as
his commander. The only thing the chairman has to do is to strengthen
his followership in his state to support the governor so that in the
next elections, the PDP wins. There is no dissention. How can we have
any dissention anyway? A PDP governor and a PDP chairman, are we
competing on anything? No! We are complementary to one another. There
is no competition between the chairman and the governor and, therefore,
there is no element of dissention; it is just an imagination.
Culled: Vanguard
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